Lessons in Okrand's Atlantean
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Lexicon for Garry's Mod or Atlantean? What are you guys talking about?
Here's some stuff in Atlantean. I made all this up myself.
Want to...
...kaperosin alitenen du?
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...see a movie?
Ludeneshtem kwam dutin gim danguntem dangunin okwep...
..get a bite to eat?
Nurosh pasilin pak martag...
...go for a walk?
Galim...
...answer the phone?
Dangunag wegenostem net...
Waydagostem komtib...
(Get off the phone.)
(Waydagostem kupeg.)
...get the door?
Mannaltem gom kwam kiyish ot...
...assist me?
Shomtem salduposag mohit wemotin bernot...
Mohit gesu...
Here's some stuff in Atlantean. I made all this up myself.
Want to...
...kaperosin alitenen du?
----------------------------------------------------
...see a movie?
Ludeneshtem kwam dutin gim danguntem dangunin okwep...
..get a bite to eat?
Nurosh pasilin pak martag...
...go for a walk?
Galim...
...answer the phone?
Dangunag wegenostem net...
Waydagostem komtib...
(Get off the phone.)
(Waydagostem kupeg.)
...get the door?
Mannaltem gom kwam kiyish ot...
...assist me?
Shomtem salduposag mohit wemotin bernot...
Mohit gesu...
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I can honestly tell you that I did not do enough work on it to have conversations in it. While I've been working on it since October, unfortunately I had a full load of other classes and extracurricular stuff, and a few weeks before it was due he told us we also had to do a 12 page paper connecting the work on the language and culture to stuff we read for the class. Thus, I had to take time I would have like to have spent on vocabulary and more detailed sentence structure writing the paper.
However, I do have an alphabet, some minimal vocabulary, and stuff like that. If you'd like me to post what I have, maybe we could play with it a bit and flesh it out some more?
However, I do have an alphabet, some minimal vocabulary, and stuff like that. If you'd like me to post what I have, maybe we could play with it a bit and flesh it out some more?
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Oh, yeah, very much so. We could flesh it out more, exactly.
I've done the same thing before with other lesser-developed conlangs, namely a "Shadow-say-saw" that a Math major at my last school developed on his own.
Just don't be embarassed: Not everone's a linguistics major but everyone can and should make up languages. It's good for the mind.
Where will you put it? Maybe as a new topic? In this forum or another? Why not this one? Atlantean's the only conlang on this site so far, I think.
I've done the same thing before with other lesser-developed conlangs, namely a "Shadow-say-saw" that a Math major at my last school developed on his own.
Just don't be embarassed: Not everone's a linguistics major but everyone can and should make up languages. It's good for the mind.
Where will you put it? Maybe as a new topic? In this forum or another? Why not this one? Atlantean's the only conlang on this site so far, I think.
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Those lessons aren't too good.
Here's a sentence in Atlantean to help you along:
English: Mikhail shot a rifle at a target.
Atlantean:
Mihayl [neshing-esh wokan-uses] [tak-ag keran-tem] net
Mikhail-NOMINATIVE rifle-INSTRUMENTAL target-OBJECTIVE at
neshing-i-mot.
shoot-PAST-he.
neshing wokan-uses - rifle, "weapon speedy", a speedy weapon
neshing - to use a weapon
tak-ag keran - "fish marker", because spearing fish requires good aim
Explanation:
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Nouns
See, Atlantean has grammatical cases (ПАДЕЖ) just like Russian but there's no "masculine noun, feminine noun, neuter noun". It's all one declension (СКЛОНЕНИЕ (ГРАМ.)) or set of endings:
Only Atlantean Declension for All Nouns:
ИМЕНИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Nominative: no ending : Mihayl
ВИНИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.) И
ДАТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.) И
ПРЕДЛОЖНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Accusative + Dative + Prepositional = Objective: -tem: Mihayl-tem
РОДИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Genitive: -ag: Mihayl-ag: "of Mikhail"
ТВОРИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Instrumental: -esh: Mihayl-esh: "using Mikhail"
ЗВАТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Vocative: -top: Mihayl-top: "Hey Mikhail!"
First Russian Declension for Masculine Nouns:
-
-у И –у И -е
-а
-ом
(Russian doesn’t have a Vocative anymore. It became the Nominative.)
Atlantean is much, much easier than Russian. Instead of many, many sets of ending for different types of nouns, it only has one. And instead of a separate column of endings for “plural”, it just adds –en.
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Verbs:
neshing-i-mot
‘neshing’ mean ‘to shoot’
-i- means ‘past tense’ which means ‘in the past’
-mot mean “he”
“shoot + in the past + he” = “he shot”
In English, we show that “shoot” is in the past by writing it “shot”.
“Shoot” is pronounced “shoot” with the u-sound in boot and “shaht” has the a-sound in father, sort of. In Cyrillic: ШУТ and ШАТ.
Pronuciation:
If we took the sentence in Atlantean and spelled it in Cyrillic:
Mihayl [neshing-esh wokan-uses] [tak-ag keran-tem] net
МИХАЯЛ НЕШИНГ-ЕШ WOКАН-УСЕС ТAК-AГ КEРАН-ТЕМ HET
neshing-i-mot.
НЕШИН-ИOT.
Do you understand? This site might help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gr ... line_nouns
Russian Alphabet:
А а (a) Б б (b) В в (v) Г г (g) Д д (d) Е е (yay) Ж ж (s in treasure) З з (z) И и (ee in feet) Й й (i in pin) К к (k) Л л (l) М м (m) Н н (n) О о (oa in boat) П п (p) Р р (r –strongly rolled) С с (s) Т т (t) У у (oo in boot) Ф ф (f) Х х (ch in Scottish loch) Ц ц (ts) Ч ч (ch) Ш ш (sh) Щ (shch) Ь ь (softens the sound before it) Ю ю(yoo) Я я (yah)
Here's a sentence in Atlantean to help you along:
English: Mikhail shot a rifle at a target.
Atlantean:
Mihayl [neshing-esh wokan-uses] [tak-ag keran-tem] net
Mikhail-NOMINATIVE rifle-INSTRUMENTAL target-OBJECTIVE at
neshing-i-mot.
shoot-PAST-he.
neshing wokan-uses - rifle, "weapon speedy", a speedy weapon
neshing - to use a weapon
tak-ag keran - "fish marker", because spearing fish requires good aim
Explanation:
-------------------------------
Nouns
See, Atlantean has grammatical cases (ПАДЕЖ) just like Russian but there's no "masculine noun, feminine noun, neuter noun". It's all one declension (СКЛОНЕНИЕ (ГРАМ.)) or set of endings:
Only Atlantean Declension for All Nouns:
ИМЕНИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Nominative: no ending : Mihayl
ВИНИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.) И
ДАТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.) И
ПРЕДЛОЖНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Accusative + Dative + Prepositional = Objective: -tem: Mihayl-tem
РОДИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Genitive: -ag: Mihayl-ag: "of Mikhail"
ТВОРИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Instrumental: -esh: Mihayl-esh: "using Mikhail"
ЗВАТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Vocative: -top: Mihayl-top: "Hey Mikhail!"
First Russian Declension for Masculine Nouns:
-
-у И –у И -е
-а
-ом
(Russian doesn’t have a Vocative anymore. It became the Nominative.)
Atlantean is much, much easier than Russian. Instead of many, many sets of ending for different types of nouns, it only has one. And instead of a separate column of endings for “plural”, it just adds –en.
-------------------------------------------------
Verbs:
neshing-i-mot
‘neshing’ mean ‘to shoot’
-i- means ‘past tense’ which means ‘in the past’
-mot mean “he”
“shoot + in the past + he” = “he shot”
In English, we show that “shoot” is in the past by writing it “shot”.
“Shoot” is pronounced “shoot” with the u-sound in boot and “shaht” has the a-sound in father, sort of. In Cyrillic: ШУТ and ШАТ.
Pronuciation:
If we took the sentence in Atlantean and spelled it in Cyrillic:
Mihayl [neshing-esh wokan-uses] [tak-ag keran-tem] net
МИХАЯЛ НЕШИНГ-ЕШ WOКАН-УСЕС ТAК-AГ КEРАН-ТЕМ HET
neshing-i-mot.
НЕШИН-ИOT.
Do you understand? This site might help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gr ... line_nouns
Russian Alphabet:
А а (a) Б б (b) В в (v) Г г (g) Д д (d) Е е (yay) Ж ж (s in treasure) З з (z) И и (ee in feet) Й й (i in pin) К к (k) Л л (l) М м (m) Н н (n) О о (oa in boat) П п (p) Р р (r –strongly rolled) С с (s) Т т (t) У у (oo in boot) Ф ф (f) Х х (ch in Scottish loch) Ц ц (ts) Ч ч (ch) Ш ш (sh) Щ (shch) Ь ь (softens the sound before it) Ю ю(yoo) Я я (yah)
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Good. While it's still fresh in your mind, pull a few words out of the dictionary
http://noble-scarlet.net/kfu/viewtopic.php?t=93
and make up a sentence or two. (Hint: it's a really, really easy language once you get a handle on a few things.)
http://noble-scarlet.net/kfu/viewtopic.php?t=93
and make up a sentence or two. (Hint: it's a really, really easy language once you get a handle on a few things.)
which reminds me. i located all my guardian precursor font and stuff (precursor atlantean) language and stuff. i believe originally before many people and civilizations where around during Atlantis's younger days, they had to have some basic form of atlantean language, before anything else was even in the picture. which is what i based my precursor language off of for the G.C.G char.
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