Lessons in Okrand's Atlantean

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#46 Post by Keran_Shadlag » Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:00 pm

Lexicon for Garry's Mod or Atlantean? :? What are you guys talking about?

Here's some stuff in Atlantean. I made all this up myself.

Want to...
...kaperosin alitenen du?

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...see a movie?
Ludeneshtem kwam dutin gim danguntem dangunin okwep...

..get a bite to eat?
Nurosh pasilin pak martag...

...go for a walk?
Galim...

...answer the phone?
Dangunag wegenostem net...
Waydagostem komtib...

(Get off the phone.)
(Waydagostem kupeg.)

...get the door?
Mannaltem gom kwam kiyish ot...

...assist me?
Shomtem salduposag mohit wemotin bernot...
Mohit gesu...

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#47 Post by Kidagakash85 » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:36 pm

RifleExpert wrote:Cool, cool =) But it's still a lot of work to do, lexicon especially.
Lexicon... *weeps* Please do not remind me. My made-up language (AND a freaking paper about it) is due tomorrow and I still have so much work to do on it...

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#48 Post by RifleExpert » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:35 am

It's a 2/3 of language, i think.
Dont ban me for noising =))) Good luck to you in your work :)
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#49 Post by Kidagakash85 » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:32 pm

LOL like I would ban one of our like three active members. :D

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#50 Post by RifleExpert » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:23 am

Who knows, who knows:)... Admins is a non-predictable people =)))
*Uhm, let's see... we have an empty banlist and political chatterbox... Maybe unite? =))) *
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#51 Post by Keran_Shadlag » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:31 am

Hey, can you send me or post this made-up language stuff? Maybe I can learn it, make a website for it, and have conversations with you in it.

roger158(at)msu.edu

Today's word of the day in Atlantean is:

bernote

to bring

bernotekik

I bring

bernotenen

you bring

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#52 Post by Keran_Shadlag » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:33 am

I've got 2 exams in Intro Ling and Phonology on Tuesday. Don't worry about it. By the way, my Ge'ez class went well. Now I know Ge'ez. I think I'll use it to sound the depths of arcane African lore. First, study I must.

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#53 Post by Kidagakash85 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:23 pm

I can honestly tell you that I did not do enough work on it to have conversations in it. While I've been working on it since October, unfortunately I had a full load of other classes and extracurricular stuff, and a few weeks before it was due he told us we also had to do a 12 page paper connecting the work on the language and culture to stuff we read for the class. Thus, I had to take time I would have like to have spent on vocabulary and more detailed sentence structure writing the paper.

However, I do have an alphabet, some minimal vocabulary, and stuff like that. If you'd like me to post what I have, maybe we could play with it a bit and flesh it out some more?

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#54 Post by Keran_Shadlag » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:56 am

Oh, yeah, very much so. We could flesh it out more, exactly.

I've done the same thing before with other lesser-developed conlangs, namely a "Shadow-say-saw" that a Math major at my last school developed on his own.

Just don't be embarassed: Not everone's a linguistics major but everyone can and should make up languages. It's good for the mind.

Where will you put it? Maybe as a new topic? In this forum or another? Why not this one? Atlantean's the only conlang on this site so far, I think.

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#55 Post by Keran_Shadlag » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:52 pm

Those lessons aren't too good.

Here's a sentence in Atlantean to help you along:

English: Mikhail shot a rifle at a target.

Atlantean:

Mihayl [neshing-esh wokan-uses] [tak-ag keran-tem] net
Mikhail-NOMINATIVE rifle-INSTRUMENTAL target-OBJECTIVE at


neshing-i-mot.
shoot-PAST-he.

neshing wokan-uses - rifle, "weapon speedy", a speedy weapon

neshing - to use a weapon

tak-ag keran - "fish marker", because spearing fish requires good aim

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Nouns

See, Atlantean has grammatical cases (ПАДЕЖ) just like Russian but there's no "masculine noun, feminine noun, neuter noun". It's all one declension (СКЛОНЕНИЕ (ГРАМ.)) or set of endings:

Only Atlantean Declension for All Nouns:
ИМЕНИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Nominative: no ending : Mihayl
ВИНИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.) И
ДАТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.) И
ПРЕДЛОЖНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Accusative + Dative + Prepositional = Objective: -tem: Mihayl-tem
РОДИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Genitive: -ag: Mihayl-ag: "of Mikhail"
ТВОРИТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Instrumental: -esh: Mihayl-esh: "using Mikhail"
ЗВАТЕЛЬНЫЙ ПАДЕЖ (ГРАМ.)
Vocative: -top: Mihayl-top: "Hey Mikhail!"

First Russian Declension for Masculine Nouns:
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-у И –у И -е

-ом
(Russian doesn’t have a Vocative anymore. It became the Nominative.)

Atlantean is much, much easier than Russian. Instead of many, many sets of ending for different types of nouns, it only has one. And instead of a separate column of endings for “plural”, it just adds –en.

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Verbs:
neshing-i-mot
‘neshing’ mean ‘to shoot’
-i- means ‘past tense’ which means ‘in the past’
-mot mean “he”
“shoot + in the past + he” = “he shot”
In English, we show that “shoot” is in the past by writing it “shot”.
“Shoot” is pronounced “shoot” with the u-sound in boot and “shaht” has the a-sound in father, sort of. In Cyrillic: ШУТ and ШАТ.


Pronuciation:

If we took the sentence in Atlantean and spelled it in Cyrillic:
Mihayl [neshing-esh wokan-uses] [tak-ag keran-tem] net
МИХАЯЛ НЕШИНГ-ЕШ WOКАН-УСЕС ТAК-AГ КEРАН-ТЕМ HET
neshing-i-mot.
НЕШИН-ИOT.


Do you understand? This site might help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gr ... line_nouns

Russian Alphabet:

А а (a) Б б (b) В в (v) Г г (g) Д д (d) Е е (yay) Ж ж (s in treasure) З з (z) И и (ee in feet) Й й (i in pin) К к (k) Л л (l) М м (m) Н н (n) О о (oa in boat) П п (p) Р р (r –strongly rolled) С с (s) Т т (t) У у (oo in boot) Ф ф (f) Х х (ch in Scottish loch) Ц ц (ts) Ч ч (ch) Ш ш (sh) Щ (shch) Ь ь (softens the sound before it) Ю ю(yoo) Я я (yah)

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#56 Post by RifleExpert » Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:23 am

Thank you, Keran, it's going better =) That's time to round-up the scholl materials =))) But Mikhayl is better sounds then МИХАИЛ =))
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#57 Post by Keran_Shadlag » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:09 pm

Good. While it's still fresh in your mind, pull a few words out of the dictionary

http://noble-scarlet.net/kfu/viewtopic.php?t=93

and make up a sentence or two. (Hint: it's a really, really easy language once you get a handle on a few things.)

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#58 Post by Pharoah » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:57 am

which reminds me. i located all my guardian precursor font and stuff (precursor atlantean) language and stuff. i believe originally before many people and civilizations where around during Atlantis's younger days, they had to have some basic form of atlantean language, before anything else was even in the picture. which is what i based my precursor language off of for the G.C.G char.

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#59 Post by RifleExpert » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:00 am

okay... but something tells me that it's no time for new languages... exams is approaching :o
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#60 Post by Keran_Shadlag » Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:20 pm

Yeah, study for those.

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